why do the state seats have the same names as the federal ones?
John, because the boundaries are coterminous hence the names are also identical. I don’t know the full history behind this decision, but it may be the result of the state wanting to have a simplified arrangement when they started electing the Assembly using proportional representation.
@John @Yoh Anh the only difference is that the state seats elect five members while the federal seats only elect one. But what I find most interesting is how voting patterns in Tasmania differ on the federal and state levels, even with the exact same boundaries (more or less like Queenslanders who have voted in Labor state governments but also voted in federal Coalition governments, federally Labor has won the TPP in Queensland in just three of the 21 federal elections since 1949, the most recent being 2007. I guess federal Labor Party is too progressive for Queenslanders while the Tasmanian Labor Party is too progressive for Tasmanians.
To give context, at the last Tasmanian state election (held in 2021 with 25 seats in the House of Assembly), these were the results (to save space I’ve just done the results for the Liberals, Labor, the Greens and independents):
Statewide:
Liberal: 13 seats (±0 or +1 if you count defections), 48.72% (–1.54%)
Labor: 9 seats (–1), 28.20% (–4.43%)
Greens: 2 seats (±0), 12.38% (+2.08%)
Independents: 1 seat (+1 or ±0 if you count defections), 6.22% (+5.14%)
In contrast, the results of the last federal election (in 2022) in Tasmania for the (House of Representatives) were (I have included the results for the Liberals, Labor, the Greens, the JLN and independents, note that the JLN did not contest Clark):
By seat (TCP, ALP v IND):
Labor: 29.18% (Clark, +1.30%)
Independent: 70.82% (Clark, –1.30%)
That there is what’s interesting about the five Tasmanian electorates. They’re exactly the same on both the federal and state levels (same names, same boundaries, different number of members elected), yet they vote completely differently on both levels with the Liberals winning a plurality or majority of the primary vote in every state seat (even the Hobart-based seat of Clark; precisely the Liberals had a majority of the primary vote in Bass, Braddon and Lyons and a plurality of the primary vote in Clark and Franklin), yet federally it is held by an independent, who faces the TCP count against Labor.
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why do the state seats have the same names as the federal ones?
John, because the boundaries are coterminous hence the names are also identical. I don’t know the full history behind this decision, but it may be the result of the state wanting to have a simplified arrangement when they started electing the Assembly using proportional representation.
@John @Yoh Anh the only difference is that the state seats elect five members while the federal seats only elect one. But what I find most interesting is how voting patterns in Tasmania differ on the federal and state levels, even with the exact same boundaries (more or less like Queenslanders who have voted in Labor state governments but also voted in federal Coalition governments, federally Labor has won the TPP in Queensland in just three of the 21 federal elections since 1949, the most recent being 2007. I guess federal Labor Party is too progressive for Queenslanders while the Tasmanian Labor Party is too progressive for Tasmanians.
To give context, at the last Tasmanian state election (held in 2021 with 25 seats in the House of Assembly), these were the results (to save space I’ve just done the results for the Liberals, Labor, the Greens and independents):
Statewide:
Liberal: 13 seats (±0 or +1 if you count defections), 48.72% (–1.54%)
Labor: 9 seats (–1), 28.20% (–4.43%)
Greens: 2 seats (±0), 12.38% (+2.08%)
Independents: 1 seat (+1 or ±0 if you count defections), 6.22% (+5.14%)
By seat:
Liberal: 59.95% (Bass), 57.19% (Braddon), 31.83% (Clark), Franklin (42.26%), Lyons (51.19%)
Labor: 26.02% (Bass), 26.52% (Braddon), 22.06% (Clark), 33.31% (Franklin), 32.54%
Greens: 9.18% (Bass), 5.55% (Braddon), 20.03% (Clark), 18.95% (Franklin), 8.86% (Lyons)
Others: 4.85% (Bass), 10.73% (Braddon), 26.07% (Clark), 5.58% (Franklin), 7.41% (Lyons)
In contrast, the results of the last federal election (in 2022) in Tasmania for the (House of Representatives) were (I have included the results for the Liberals, Labor, the Greens, the JLN and independents, note that the JLN did not contest Clark):
Statewide primaries:
Liberal: 2 seats (±0), 32.94% (+2.31%)
Labor: 2 seats (±0), 27.76% (–6.35%)
Greens: 0 seats (±), 12.00% (+1.88%)
JLN: 0 seats (±0), 6.79% (+6.79%)
Independents: 1 seat (±0), 11.54% (–1.84%)
Statewide TPP:
Labor: 54.33% (–1.63%)
Liberal: 45.67% (+1.63%)
By seat (primaries):
Liberal: 39.73% (Bass, –2.60%), 44.11% (Braddon, +6.22%), 15.85% (Clark, –1.52%), 26.73% (Franklin, –4.54%), 37.22% (Lyons, +13.04%)
Labor: 28.61% (Bass, –6.13%), 22.50% (Braddon, –9.56%), 18.76% (Clark, –1.40%), 36.69% (Franklin, –7.30%), 29.04% (Lyons, –7.42%)
Greens: 11.10% (Bass, +0.62%), 6.72% (Braddon, +1.88%), 13.45% (Clark, +3.88%), 17.68% (Franklin, +1.11%), 11.43% (Lyons, +1.98%)
JLN: 6.69% (Bass), 9.87% (Braddon), 5.92% (Franklin), Lyons (10.68%)
Andrew Wilkie (independent): 45.54% (Clark, –4.51%)
By seat (TPP, ALP v LIB):
Labor: 48.57% (Bass, –1.02%), 41.97% (Braddon, –4.94%), 67.74% (Clark, +1.07%), 63.70% (Franklin, +1.49%), 50.92% (Lyons, –4.26)
Liberal: 51.43% (Bass, +1.02%), 58.03% (Braddon, +4.94%), 32.76% (Clark, –1.07%), 36.30% (Franklin, –1.49%), 49.08% (Lyons, +4.26%)
By seat (TCP, ALP v IND):
Labor: 29.18% (Clark, +1.30%)
Independent: 70.82% (Clark, –1.30%)
That there is what’s interesting about the five Tasmanian electorates. They’re exactly the same on both the federal and state levels (same names, same boundaries, different number of members elected), yet they vote completely differently on both levels with the Liberals winning a plurality or majority of the primary vote in every state seat (even the Hobart-based seat of Clark; precisely the Liberals had a majority of the primary vote in Bass, Braddon and Lyons and a plurality of the primary vote in Clark and Franklin), yet federally it is held by an independent, who faces the TCP count against Labor.