Comments on: Senate – New South Wales – Election 2010 http://www.tallyroom.com.au Elections and politics in Australia and around the world. Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:38:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Hamish Coffee http://www.tallyroom.com.au/election-2010/nswsen2010/comment-page-2#comment-24634 Hamish Coffee Mon, 09 Aug 2010 23:26:53 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?page_id=2039#comment-24634 Seems to be. I haven't heard a thing, and I'm probably in her 'support area' (around UNSW). Seems to be. I haven’t heard a thing, and I’m probably in her ‘support area’ (around UNSW).

]]> By: Imaginative Nickname http://www.tallyroom.com.au/election-2010/nswsen2010/comment-page-2#comment-24626 Imaginative Nickname Mon, 09 Aug 2010 22:17:06 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?page_id=2039#comment-24626 Can anyone in NSW detail the campaigning to date of Cheryl Kernot? Print, Television, Internet, Walking the streets? Is she simply relying on name recognition on the ballot paper? Can anyone in NSW detail the campaigning to date of Cheryl Kernot? Print, Television, Internet, Walking the streets? Is she simply relying on name recognition on the ballot paper?

]]> By: Tony Zegenhagen http://www.tallyroom.com.au/election-2010/nswsen2010/comment-page-2#comment-24484 Tony Zegenhagen Sun, 08 Aug 2010 08:49:53 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?page_id=2039#comment-24484 <i>Kevin Bonham Says I see the Dems have basically swapped preferences with the Sex Party ahead of the Greens in states other than Queensland, where they preference the Greens first. Can’t see the slightest strategic logic in the latter since the Dems are grossly unlikely to ever see Greens’ preferences in any state other than perhaps Tasmania (where the Sex Party isn’t on the ballot). </i> Thats right, they threw up the white flag up here thats for sure. Makes you wonder why they bothered Standing. Kevin Bonham Says I see the Dems have basically swapped preferences with the Sex Party ahead of the Greens in states other than Queensland, where they preference the Greens first. Can’t see the slightest strategic logic in the latter since the Dems are grossly unlikely to ever see Greens’ preferences in any state other than perhaps Tasmania (where the Sex Party isn’t on the ballot).

Thats right, they threw up the white flag up here thats for sure.
Makes you wonder why they bothered Standing.

]]> By: Kevin Bonham http://www.tallyroom.com.au/election-2010/nswsen2010/comment-page-2#comment-24476 Kevin Bonham Sun, 08 Aug 2010 07:29:07 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?page_id=2039#comment-24476 I see the Dems have basically swapped preferences with the Sex Party ahead of the Greens in states other than Queensland, where they preference the Greens first. Can't see the slightest strategic logic in the latter since the Dems are grossly unlikely to ever see Greens' preferences in any state other than perhaps Tasmania (where the Sex Party isn't on the ballot). Makes more sense for the Dems to swap with vaguely likeminded smaller parties than with the Greens. In general, Senate preference negotiations are about strategic benefit first and foremost, unless a party is so extreme and repulsive that it's unthinkable to preference it. Then those who miss out on the deals beat up a case about how repulsive the deals that were done were. I see the Dems have basically swapped preferences with the Sex Party ahead of the Greens in states other than Queensland, where they preference the Greens first. Can’t see the slightest strategic logic in the latter since the Dems are grossly unlikely to ever see Greens’ preferences in any state other than perhaps Tasmania (where the Sex Party isn’t on the ballot). Makes more sense for the Dems to swap with vaguely likeminded smaller parties than with the Greens. In general, Senate preference negotiations are about strategic benefit first and foremost, unless a party is so extreme and repulsive that it’s unthinkable to preference it. Then those who miss out on the deals beat up a case about how repulsive the deals that were done were.

]]> By: Tony Zegenhagen http://www.tallyroom.com.au/election-2010/nswsen2010/comment-page-2#comment-24446 Tony Zegenhagen Sun, 08 Aug 2010 01:48:29 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?page_id=2039#comment-24446 <i> Imaginative Nickname Looking over the senate preferences of the DLP state by state, there seems to be no pattern for the order of Liberals, Labour, Dems and even the Greens. What is the explanation for this, especially in Victoria</i> The Greens made a deal with Labor, Family First did a national Deal with the Coalition. We made a number of deals with minor parties and they changed state by State. They included CDP, Climate Sceptics, One Nation, Building Australia and individual Senators from both the LNP and the ALP and one or two indivuals of the LDP. We also offered deals to the Democrats to try and block the Green Alliance but they chose to go to the alliance and did not see the dangers of such a deal. Generally though we went CDP, Family First Coalition ALP then Greens.
Imaginative Nickname Looking over the senate preferences of the DLP state by state, there seems to be no pattern for the order of Liberals, Labour, Dems and even the Greens. What is the explanation for this, especially in Victoria

The Greens made a deal with Labor, Family First did a national Deal with the Coalition.
We made a number of deals with minor parties and they changed state by State.
They included CDP, Climate Sceptics, One Nation, Building Australia and individual Senators from both the LNP and the ALP and one or two indivuals of the LDP.

We also offered deals to the Democrats to try and block the Green Alliance but they chose to go to the alliance and did not see the dangers of such a deal.

Generally though we went CDP, Family First Coalition ALP then Greens.

]]> By: Imaginative Nickname http://www.tallyroom.com.au/election-2010/nswsen2010/comment-page-2#comment-24376 Imaginative Nickname Sat, 07 Aug 2010 08:59:41 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?page_id=2039#comment-24376 Tony Z, Looking over the senate preferences of the DLP state by state, there seems to be no pattern for the order of Liberals, Labour, Dems and even the Greens. What is the explanation for this, especially in Victoria... NSW - Democrats; Labor; Coalition; Cheryl Kernot; Australian Sex Party; Green SA - Liberal; Labor; Democrats; Australian Sex Party; Greens Vic - Coalition; Labor; Stephen Mayne; Greens; Democrats; Australian Sex Party. WA - Labor; Democrats; Liberal; Australian Sex Party; Greens Tony Z,

Looking over the senate preferences of the DLP state by state, there seems to be no pattern for the order of Liberals, Labour, Dems and even the Greens. What is the explanation for this, especially in Victoria…

NSW – Democrats; Labor; Coalition; Cheryl Kernot; Australian Sex Party; Green
SA – Liberal; Labor; Democrats; Australian Sex Party; Greens
Vic – Coalition; Labor; Stephen Mayne; Greens; Democrats; Australian Sex Party.
WA – Labor; Democrats; Liberal; Australian Sex Party; Greens

]]> By: Fiona http://www.tallyroom.com.au/election-2010/nswsen2010/comment-page-2#comment-23798 Fiona Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:55:56 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?page_id=2039#comment-23798 Hi All, The Australian Democrats are here and we aim to make a difference. We've had a good look at ourselves and believe we can return and pick up the mantle to keep the bastards honest again. Fiona. Clancy Hi All,

The Australian Democrats are here and we aim to make a difference. We’ve had a good look at ourselves and believe we can return and pick up the mantle to keep the bastards honest again.

Fiona. Clancy

]]> By: deconst http://www.tallyroom.com.au/election-2010/nswsen2010/comment-page-2#comment-23435 deconst Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:16:44 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?page_id=2039#comment-23435 32 columns this year. Possibly a record. 32 columns this year. Possibly a record.

]]> By: Dale Colbeck http://www.tallyroom.com.au/election-2010/nswsen2010/comment-page-2#comment-23427 Dale Colbeck Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:57:34 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?page_id=2039#comment-23427 Cheryl Kernot is running as an independent senator with one other person on her ticket. Cheryl Kernot is running as an independent senator with one other person on her ticket.

]]> By: Hamish Coffee http://www.tallyroom.com.au/election-2010/nswsen2010/comment-page-2#comment-23354 Hamish Coffee Thu, 29 Jul 2010 05:57:12 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?page_id=2039#comment-23354 In case anyone missed it, former Liberal candidate for Chifley David Barker, the one who was caught out making bigoted comments about Muslims, is running as an independent in the NSW Senate. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/ex-lib-aspirant-david-barker-goes-for-senate/story-fn59niix-1225897744747 Strangely, the Herald reports Barker will be running as an independent in Chifley, so I'm not sure what's happening there. http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/dumped-lib-has-better-odds-than-green-20100728-10vyv.html I guess we'll have to wait for nominations to be announced tomorrow. In case anyone missed it, former Liberal candidate for Chifley David Barker, the one who was caught out making bigoted comments about Muslims, is running as an independent in the NSW Senate.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/ex-lib-aspirant-david-barker-goes-for-senate/story-fn59niix-1225897744747

Strangely, the Herald reports Barker will be running as an independent in Chifley, so I’m not sure what’s happening there.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/dumped-lib-has-better-odds-than-green-20100728-10vyv.html

I guess we’ll have to wait for nominations to be announced tomorrow.

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