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		<title>Comment on Braddon &#8211; Australia 2013 by Andrew Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/aus2013/braddon2013/comment-page-1#comment-497441</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 02:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Driftforge in suggesting seccession for Tasmania is  on a very slippery slope.
Tasmania Imported $340 Miillion and Expoorted $224 Million ie an EXport Deficit Queensland on other hand imports $3452 MIllion and Exports $5176 MIllion. WA figures would not load from ABS WEbsite. 

THe message is clear TAsmania is a basketcase. It needs a massive injection of Caopital to stop the slip into bankruptcy.

As a Federated Nation we need to prop up the weak for the common wealth. However neither Sidbottom nor his LIberal opponent want this type of Government intervention and the Greens want to shut what Industry there currently exists. Only the Parties I mentioned acticvely support Government Intervention to encourage the growth of Industry. THe LDP were Liberals with a Green Social Policy ie like the Democrats they picked thhe evil economic policies of Libs and the evil social polies of ALP. . Between the two  of them they closed down the Australian National LIne and let the Greens shutr Paper Mills..
Andrew Jackson
apjackson@hotkey.net.au]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Driftforge in suggesting seccession for Tasmania is  on a very slippery slope.<br />
Tasmania Imported $340 Miillion and Expoorted $224 Million ie an EXport Deficit Queensland on other hand imports $3452 MIllion and Exports $5176 MIllion. WA figures would not load from ABS WEbsite. </p>
<p>THe message is clear TAsmania is a basketcase. It needs a massive injection of Caopital to stop the slip into bankruptcy.</p>
<p>As a Federated Nation we need to prop up the weak for the common wealth. However neither Sidbottom nor his LIberal opponent want this type of Government intervention and the Greens want to shut what Industry there currently exists. Only the Parties I mentioned acticvely support Government Intervention to encourage the growth of Industry. THe LDP were Liberals with a Green Social Policy ie like the Democrats they picked thhe evil economic policies of Libs and the evil social polies of ALP. . Between the two  of them they closed down the Australian National LIne and let the Greens shutr Paper Mills..<br />
Andrew Jackson<br />
<a href="mailto:apjackson@hotkey.net.au">apjackson@hotkey.net.au</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Braddon &#8211; Australia 2013 by Driftforge</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/aus2013/braddon2013/comment-page-1#comment-497393</link>
		<dc:creator>Driftforge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 00:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Houses for sale in Penguin for $200 K are a sign of systemic Governmental failure&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not really, at least not at the local level.  Its more indicative of national and international changes that are slowly flowing through down here.  $200k is not a bad price for a house in Penguin anyway.  Land is cheaper down here, the recent bubble aside.  Prices can be expected to drop for some time to come.

Yes, Tasmania needs a fourth party, probably more along the lines of the LDP than those mentioned above.  The bonus down here is that the situation is ready for it, and the barriers to entry at state level are relatively low due to Hare Clarke.

But the simple presence of a fourth party wont rectify the situation.  Our state budget needs to be trimmed by somewhere between 10 and 20%.  Public employment needs to drop from 28% to somewhere around 20%.  Regulation needs to be cut back drastically, and the state needs to be opened up for development - at least 20% of the currently ~50% of the state listed as &#039;conserved area&#039; needs to be reopened for economic use.  

My suspicion is that in the end the best way to rebuild Tasmania would be to secede for a period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Houses for sale in Penguin for $200 K are a sign of systemic Governmental failure</p></blockquote>
<p>Not really, at least not at the local level.  Its more indicative of national and international changes that are slowly flowing through down here.  $200k is not a bad price for a house in Penguin anyway.  Land is cheaper down here, the recent bubble aside.  Prices can be expected to drop for some time to come.</p>
<p>Yes, Tasmania needs a fourth party, probably more along the lines of the LDP than those mentioned above.  The bonus down here is that the situation is ready for it, and the barriers to entry at state level are relatively low due to Hare Clarke.</p>
<p>But the simple presence of a fourth party wont rectify the situation.  Our state budget needs to be trimmed by somewhere between 10 and 20%.  Public employment needs to drop from 28% to somewhere around 20%.  Regulation needs to be cut back drastically, and the state needs to be opened up for development &#8211; at least 20% of the currently ~50% of the state listed as &#8216;conserved area&#8217; needs to be reopened for economic use.  </p>
<p>My suspicion is that in the end the best way to rebuild Tasmania would be to secede for a period.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Longman &#8211; Australia 2013 by Andrew Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/aus2013/longman2013/comment-page-1#comment-497390</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 00:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Macca-BNE is right politicians can ttract a personal vote but thius very seldom occurs in Metropolitan seats such as Longman.

Katter and Messenger represent rural seats with Provincial NEwspapers and Radio Stations. THis gives them a greeat advantage over MEtropolitan Politicians who compete  for time on State TV and Radio.

Wyatt Roy has worked hard as an MP but I doubt if the electorate know how hard he has worked. His predecessor Jon Sullivan and Sullivan&#039;s predecssor Mal Brough also worked hard.

I have heard no personal hostility about Roy in Longman. MIchael Caisley is certainly not working as hard as Roy did to get elected.

Andrew Jackson
apjackson@hotkey.net.au]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Macca-BNE is right politicians can ttract a personal vote but thius very seldom occurs in Metropolitan seats such as Longman.</p>
<p>Katter and Messenger represent rural seats with Provincial NEwspapers and Radio Stations. THis gives them a greeat advantage over MEtropolitan Politicians who compete  for time on State TV and Radio.</p>
<p>Wyatt Roy has worked hard as an MP but I doubt if the electorate know how hard he has worked. His predecessor Jon Sullivan and Sullivan&#8217;s predecssor Mal Brough also worked hard.</p>
<p>I have heard no personal hostility about Roy in Longman. MIchael Caisley is certainly not working as hard as Roy did to get elected.</p>
<p>Andrew Jackson<br />
<a href="mailto:apjackson@hotkey.net.au">apjackson@hotkey.net.au</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Braddon &#8211; Australia 2013 by Andrew Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 23:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I Just had a two week holiuday in DEvonport so this of course makes me an expert in Tasmanian politics.

However Who in their right mind would elect individuals to Parliament who have no intention of solving the major problems of this region. JObs and TRansport. The Libs and ALP want to sit back and do nothing whilst thhe delusional GReens want to wipe out what few  jobs that currently exist.

Houses for sale in Penguin for $200 K are a sign of systemic Governmental failure 

Devonport is a Port but only for a few ships. Transport costs more to ship Devonport to Melbourne than Melbourne to China. 


TAsmania and Braddon can not afford a single Green Vote in Parliament. Braddon needs an alternative be this DLP KAP or PUP but it can not afford closed  or unbuilt Paper Mills, Shut railways and Ports with no ships. 

Tasmanian voters can not afford to rely on tourist paper makers and playtime train riders they need very large investment in factories, meat canneries, fruit packing facilities. 

Sidebottom did not appear to be unpopular personally and he certainly is locally active compared to Wayne SWan in Lilley (see my last comment on Tallyroom) but Wyatt Roy beats them all for activity. 

What has Sidebottom done to fix TRansport and JObs?

Andrew Jackson
apjackson@hotkey.net.au]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Just had a two week holiuday in DEvonport so this of course makes me an expert in Tasmanian politics.</p>
<p>However Who in their right mind would elect individuals to Parliament who have no intention of solving the major problems of this region. JObs and TRansport. The Libs and ALP want to sit back and do nothing whilst thhe delusional GReens want to wipe out what few  jobs that currently exist.</p>
<p>Houses for sale in Penguin for $200 K are a sign of systemic Governmental failure </p>
<p>Devonport is a Port but only for a few ships. Transport costs more to ship Devonport to Melbourne than Melbourne to China. </p>
<p>TAsmania and Braddon can not afford a single Green Vote in Parliament. Braddon needs an alternative be this DLP KAP or PUP but it can not afford closed  or unbuilt Paper Mills, Shut railways and Ports with no ships. </p>
<p>Tasmanian voters can not afford to rely on tourist paper makers and playtime train riders they need very large investment in factories, meat canneries, fruit packing facilities. </p>
<p>Sidebottom did not appear to be unpopular personally and he certainly is locally active compared to Wayne SWan in Lilley (see my last comment on Tallyroom) but Wyatt Roy beats them all for activity. </p>
<p>What has Sidebottom done to fix TRansport and JObs?</p>
<p>Andrew Jackson<br />
<a href="mailto:apjackson@hotkey.net.au">apjackson@hotkey.net.au</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Dobell &#8211; Australia 2013 by KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 14:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard that Clive Palmer&#039;s Party will also have a Candidate for Dobell.  Maybe it is time for a new party to shake things up. So far his policies look ok.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that Clive Palmer&#8217;s Party will also have a Candidate for Dobell.  Maybe it is time for a new party to shake things up. So far his policies look ok.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sydney &#8211; Australia 2013 by GNav</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/aus2013/sydney2013/comment-page-1#comment-497083</link>
		<dc:creator>GNav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 12:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A quick internet search reveals that on April 3 the Socialist Alliance pre-selected their national co-convenor, Peter Boyle, as candidate for Sydney. That takes us to four candidates so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick internet search reveals that on April 3 the Socialist Alliance pre-selected their national co-convenor, Peter Boyle, as candidate for Sydney. That takes us to four candidates so far.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wills &#8211; Australia 2013 by MDMConnell</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/aus2013/wills2013/comment-page-1#comment-496950</link>
		<dc:creator>MDMConnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 09:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wills is a little different from neighbouring Batman in that it still contains some areas that are relatively good for the Liberals (Strathmore North, Pascoe Vale, Oak Park), meaning it&#039;s much harder for the Greens to finish second here. 

Note again though, how the Green vote basically dies out after you get north of Bell Street.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wills is a little different from neighbouring Batman in that it still contains some areas that are relatively good for the Liberals (Strathmore North, Pascoe Vale, Oak Park), meaning it&#8217;s much harder for the Greens to finish second here. </p>
<p>Note again though, how the Green vote basically dies out after you get north of Bell Street.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Barton &#8211; Australia 2013 by Pip</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/aus2013/barton2013/comment-page-1#comment-496780</link>
		<dc:creator>Pip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed. Varvaris is a respected Mayor who&#039;s been there for 5 years, and regardless of political persuasion, voters will be familiar with him. Labor candidate Steve MacMahon was unfortunate enough to be Mayor of a neighbouring council which was tainted by allegations of corruption. While I personally do not like the idea of an Abbott government, I would favour Varvaris over MacMahon on a local level. I expect the Liberals to win this seat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. Varvaris is a respected Mayor who&#8217;s been there for 5 years, and regardless of political persuasion, voters will be familiar with him. Labor candidate Steve MacMahon was unfortunate enough to be Mayor of a neighbouring council which was tainted by allegations of corruption. While I personally do not like the idea of an Abbott government, I would favour Varvaris over MacMahon on a local level. I expect the Liberals to win this seat.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Barton &#8211; Australia 2013 by DB</title>
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		<dc:creator>DB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 06:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A good Liberal candidate here. Potential gain for the Libs and will be very close I suspect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good Liberal candidate here. Potential gain for the Libs and will be very close I suspect.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bruce &#8211; Australia 2013 by MDMConnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>MDMConnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 03:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Monash Freeway is traditionally regarded as a demographic divide in this part of the eastern suburbs....on the north you&#039;ve got middle-class Waverley and Knox, on the south you have more industrial and working class Clayton, Springvale, and Dandenong. You can see this from the booth results very clearly.; every marginal or Liberal booth is north of the line of the freeway, every strong Labor booth south of it. 

The Liberals have probably under-achieved in the north in recent times, so there is room for a rebound there. But it&#039;s hard to see Noble Park and Dandenong shifting enough to cost Labor the seat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Monash Freeway is traditionally regarded as a demographic divide in this part of the eastern suburbs&#8230;.on the north you&#8217;ve got middle-class Waverley and Knox, on the south you have more industrial and working class Clayton, Springvale, and Dandenong. You can see this from the booth results very clearly.; every marginal or Liberal booth is north of the line of the freeway, every strong Labor booth south of it. </p>
<p>The Liberals have probably under-achieved in the north in recent times, so there is room for a rebound there. But it&#8217;s hard to see Noble Park and Dandenong shifting enough to cost Labor the seat.</p>
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