Comments for The Tally Room http://www.tallyroom.com.au Mon, 16 Sep 2019 21:57:56 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.11 Comment on Epping – NSW 2019 by Kadsw http://www.tallyroom.com.au/archive/nsw2019/epping2019/comment-page-1#comment-739448 Mon, 16 Sep 2019 21:57:56 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?page_id=33937#comment-739448 Dominic Perrottet has thoroughly pissed off majority of Cherrybrook residents by choosing to stand on Andrew Constance’s side and by being in on the plan to deprive Cherrybrook of buses that were running smoothly for many decades.

Instead of representing his electorate, he arrogantly ignored community feedback on buses.

I don’t think Cherrybrook residents will forget this humiliation and arrogance by liberal party in next election.

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Comment on No names above the line hurt independents by Ben Raue http://www.tallyroom.com.au/38987/comment-page-1#comment-739401 Sat, 14 Sep 2019 05:51:14 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?p=38987#comment-739401 Andrew, I didn’t say that all BTL votes are the result of a group not having a name above the line, but I am pointing to the much higher rate.

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Comment on No names above the line hurt independents by Firefox http://www.tallyroom.com.au/38987/comment-page-1#comment-739399 Sat, 14 Sep 2019 01:15:14 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?p=38987#comment-739399 It’s disgraceful that the Capital Territory which has a population close to 500,000 is only represented by two senators. The ACT will overtake TAS in population soon and then we’ll be in the even more ridiculous situation of having a territory with a larger population than a state but with 10 less senators.

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Comment on No names above the line hurt independents by Andrew Jackson http://www.tallyroom.com.au/38987/comment-page-1#comment-739381 Fri, 13 Sep 2019 04:24:47 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?p=38987#comment-739381 Not all BYL votes are the result of no group name above the line. I have never ever followed the HTV that I have handed out completely.
Parties have to make HTV simple so that informal votes minimised. Most parties in designing HTV for Lower House preferenced (ideologically or strategically) till they reached the First Major Party and from then on took more notice of ballot draw than party to allocate after first major party preferenced.

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Comment on No names above the line hurt independents by Andrew Jackson http://www.tallyroom.com.au/38987/comment-page-1#comment-739380 Fri, 13 Sep 2019 04:15:04 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?p=38987#comment-739380 It is not that difficult to get signatures on a nomination form. During 1974 election I walked down Queen St from North Quey with nomination 18 nomination forms half of which had insufficient names on the forms. I just walked up to people and asked them would they give the electors the opportunity to vote for my parties candidate. By the time I got to AEC Office in Edward Street I had collected the 20 odd additional signatures needed to get my candidates on the ballot paper.

500 members however is a different matter. Someon might support the right for electorate to have opportunity but not support the objectives of the candidate.

After getting to AEC with nomination forms and the bank cheque one of the signatures on forms was not on the roll so I had to go out into Edward Street to get another signature. ALP’s Manfred Cross MP for Brisbane who was also in AEC lodging his own nomination declined to sign the DLP nomination form good naturedly. I had a few knock backs in Queen Street but most that I approached signed at least one of my nomination forms.

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Comment on No names above the line hurt independents by tortfeaser http://www.tallyroom.com.au/38987/comment-page-1#comment-739374 Thu, 12 Sep 2019 23:10:34 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?p=38987#comment-739374 I was a polling official in an ACT booth (in a deeply suburban area in the south).

This is true: ‘It’s possible that Pesec voters were discouraged from voting for him entirely when they did not find his name above the line.’. The other isn’t so true. When it was pointed out to the discouraged voters that they could vote BTL and the effect of this for the count there was a lot of mistrust. Maybe I was crap at explaining.

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Comment on No names above the line hurt independents by AlexJ http://www.tallyroom.com.au/38987/comment-page-1#comment-739357 Thu, 12 Sep 2019 03:32:14 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?p=38987#comment-739357 I endorse the local-nominations over deposits approach 100%.

I suggest the best approach would be to make the number of unique nominators required per Senate candidate to be, say, 10x the number of Reps divisions in the state/territory.
(That’s not 10 signatures *from* each division, to be clear, just signatures 10x the number of divisions (from electors in the state/territory).)
Ideally, permit the relevant form to be received and provisionally processed by the AEC up to a year before the close of nominations, to make it easier at election time.

Registration requirements can be left as-is. Got 500 members? Cool, you’re in the system.

This would raise the bar significantly for minor party ballot access, while providing a lot of good incentives towards being well-organised for a campaign, and all in a non-financial manner.

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Comment on Breaking up the Senate? Why it’s such a bad idea by winediamond http://www.tallyroom.com.au/38982/comment-page-1#comment-739356 Thu, 12 Sep 2019 02:37:22 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?p=38982#comment-739356 What an unbelievably dopey idea. Not a proposal. It lack sufficient thought to qualify as such. McGrath reveals himself as typically parochial, blinkered Qlder. What a dill. Very disappointing i had hoped McGrath was as intelligent as his resume suggested. Unfortunately he is just another sleepy, dreamy Type 9 fixation, the intellectual laziness is mind-blowing .
I speak from personal experience, as i used to occasionally throw up such un grounded, ill considered nonsense myself, before i studied the enneagram. McGrath needs to WAKE UP !!

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Comment on Breaking up the Senate? Why it’s such a bad idea by Ben Raue http://www.tallyroom.com.au/38982/comment-page-1#comment-739347 Wed, 11 Sep 2019 23:24:21 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?p=38982#comment-739347 Joyce did propose something similar but the story I’m responding to is in regards to James McGrath proposing this.

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Comment on Breaking up the Senate? Why it’s such a bad idea by Doug http://www.tallyroom.com.au/38982/comment-page-1#comment-739346 Wed, 11 Sep 2019 22:25:39 +0000 http://www.tallyroom.com.au/?p=38982#comment-739346 The entire raft of proposals coming out of the LNP are so obviously self interested that they should run out of steam on that basis let alone their other major failings in terms of being anti-democratic

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