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		<title>By: Ben Raue</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/1613/comment-page-1#comment-5480</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Raue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m more surprised that there&#039;s a single female Nationals MP in Burrinjuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m more surprised that there&#8217;s a single female Nationals MP in Burrinjuck.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/1613/comment-page-1#comment-5474</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The eight Nationals MPs in the area north of Newcastle are all male&quot;

No surprises there. I could never fathom in my time in Nat Country how young women (among others) could justify voting National.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The eight Nationals MPs in the area north of Newcastle are all male&#8221;</p>
<p>No surprises there. I could never fathom in my time in Nat Country how young women (among others) could justify voting National.</p>
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		<title>By: Meg Clement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg Clement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a very interesting academic paper (written by Deb Brennan from USyd) about women in the NSW Parliament called &#039;Women in the Bear Pit&#039;. Was presented at the APSA conference in Newcastle in 2006. Go to http://www.newcastle.edu.au/Resources/Schools/Newcastle%20Business%20School/APSA/ANZPOL/Brennan-Deborah.pdf

Meg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a very interesting academic paper (written by Deb Brennan from USyd) about women in the NSW Parliament called &#8216;Women in the Bear Pit&#8217;. Was presented at the APSA conference in Newcastle in 2006. Go to <a href="http://www.newcastle.edu.au/Resources/Schools/Newcastle%20Business%20School/APSA/ANZPOL/Brennan-Deborah.pdf" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.newcastle.edu.au/Resources/Schools/Newcastle_20Business_20School/APSA/ANZPOL/Brennan-Deborah.pdf?referer=');">http://www.newcastle.edu.au/Resources/Schools/Newcastle%20Business%20School/APSA/ANZPOL/Brennan-Deborah.pdf</a></p>
<p>Meg</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Raue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Raue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neither do I. Although PR systems tend to vastly improve the representation of women and minorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither do I. Although PR systems tend to vastly improve the representation of women and minorities.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/1613/comment-page-1#comment-5052</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 11:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, but I don&#039;t like the idea of legislating to address that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, but I don&#8217;t like the idea of legislating to address that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Raue</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/1613/comment-page-1#comment-5043</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Raue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 07:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, I think you are partly right in recognising that ultimately gender isn&#039;t a barrier in the way it used to be. I would argue that, even though there are few positions a woman couldn&#039;t rise to, there is still clear barriers to the same numbers of women.

The occasional outstanding figure like Julia Gillard or Anna Bligh can rise up through the ranks, but it still remains the case that there are a lot more mediocre men than women in Parliament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, I think you are partly right in recognising that ultimately gender isn&#8217;t a barrier in the way it used to be. I would argue that, even though there are few positions a woman couldn&#8217;t rise to, there is still clear barriers to the same numbers of women.</p>
<p>The occasional outstanding figure like Julia Gillard or Anna Bligh can rise up through the ranks, but it still remains the case that there are a lot more mediocre men than women in Parliament.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having mandated quotas for the number of female MPs would also arguably send the wrong message and reinforce the sort of outdated thinking that it is designed to counter - implying that women aren&#039;t able to get elected on their own merits. 

If individual parties still have problems with cultural barriers preventing women from getting a fair go, then those parties could take steps internally to address this, such as implementing a policy like that themselves. 

Personally I think this is something of a generational issue. It&#039;s just never occurred to me to take gender into consideration when assessing the calibre of a politician, or deciding what I think of them. I assume this is because I&#039;ve grown up in an era where women have held prominent positions - I can remember when Thatcher was in the dying days of her reign as British PM, when Carmen Lawrence and Joan Kirner became our first female Premiers, and Janine Haines, our first female leader of a national political party (well, only vaguely remember her and the 1990 election). Then there was that period after the 1993 election when Bronwyn Bishop was seriously being touted as a future PM. So I&#039;m used to seeing women in power, and have just never thought of women as being any more or less capable than men - I&#039;ve just never taken gender into account when considering whether I think a politician or candidate is good or bad. 

Older people who remember a time when there were no women in prominent positions, and when old attitudes about women prevented them from getting recognised on their merits, would naturally see things differently. 

Obviously there is still a problem with gender balance in politics, but I don&#039;t think your approach Tom is either a necessary or desirable solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having mandated quotas for the number of female MPs would also arguably send the wrong message and reinforce the sort of outdated thinking that it is designed to counter &#8211; implying that women aren&#8217;t able to get elected on their own merits. </p>
<p>If individual parties still have problems with cultural barriers preventing women from getting a fair go, then those parties could take steps internally to address this, such as implementing a policy like that themselves. </p>
<p>Personally I think this is something of a generational issue. It&#8217;s just never occurred to me to take gender into consideration when assessing the calibre of a politician, or deciding what I think of them. I assume this is because I&#8217;ve grown up in an era where women have held prominent positions &#8211; I can remember when Thatcher was in the dying days of her reign as British PM, when Carmen Lawrence and Joan Kirner became our first female Premiers, and Janine Haines, our first female leader of a national political party (well, only vaguely remember her and the 1990 election). Then there was that period after the 1993 election when Bronwyn Bishop was seriously being touted as a future PM. So I&#8217;m used to seeing women in power, and have just never thought of women as being any more or less capable than men &#8211; I&#8217;ve just never taken gender into account when considering whether I think a politician or candidate is good or bad. </p>
<p>Older people who remember a time when there were no women in prominent positions, and when old attitudes about women prevented them from getting recognised on their merits, would naturally see things differently. </p>
<p>Obviously there is still a problem with gender balance in politics, but I don&#8217;t think your approach Tom is either a necessary or desirable solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Raue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Raue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure where you would need to change the constitution, but it would be a fairly dramatic change in the electoral system, either to mandate parties to run alternating male and female candidates, or to promote female candidates over men. Either way, it&#039;s a hugely dramatic move. I doubt a single MP would support it to be used in general elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure where you would need to change the constitution, but it would be a fairly dramatic change in the electoral system, either to mandate parties to run alternating male and female candidates, or to promote female candidates over men. Either way, it&#8217;s a hugely dramatic move. I doubt a single MP would support it to be used in general elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 12:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would not need a referendum for the senate though.  Which part of the NSW constitution would make it need a referendum?  It would be a big change.  Of course I would prefer Tasmania/ACT style Hare-Clark where the voters would chose which of the candidates from a party would be elected but probably still with affirmative action quotas for candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would not need a referendum for the senate though.  Which part of the NSW constitution would make it need a referendum?  It would be a big change.  Of course I would prefer Tasmania/ACT style Hare-Clark where the voters would chose which of the candidates from a party would be elected but probably still with affirmative action quotas for candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Raue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Raue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 09:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not going to happen. It would absolutely need a referendum and would be a dramatic change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not going to happen. It would absolutely need a referendum and would be a dramatic change.</p>
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