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	<title>Comments on: Queensland submissions</title>
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		<title>By: MDMConnell</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/1161/comment-page-1#comment-2556</link>
		<dc:creator>MDMConnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 05:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So they&#039;re best viewed in Google Earth?

I downloaded a cheapo &#039;trial version&#039; of Mapinfo for free, which gave me the basic outline of the divisions with little other information. I assumed the major parties would have done better than that, but couldn&#039;t get any other data out. I&#039;ll try it in GE and see how it goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they&#8217;re best viewed in Google Earth?</p>
<p>I downloaded a cheapo &#8216;trial version&#8217; of Mapinfo for free, which gave me the basic outline of the divisions with little other information. I assumed the major parties would have done better than that, but couldn&#8217;t get any other data out. I&#8217;ll try it in GE and see how it goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Raue</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/1161/comment-page-1#comment-2555</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Raue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 05:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richardson looks like an old cook. I downloaded the attachment to the NSW ALP submission, managed to convert it into KML quite easily and open it in Google Earth. I assume the Queensland ALP and LNP submissions use a similar format.

Although it&#039;s a good thing that they are posting the GIS files that go with these documents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richardson looks like an old cook. I downloaded the attachment to the NSW ALP submission, managed to convert it into KML quite easily and open it in Google Earth. I assume the Queensland ALP and LNP submissions use a similar format.</p>
<p>Although it&#8217;s a good thing that they are posting the GIS files that go with these documents.</p>
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		<title>By: MDMConnell</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/1161/comment-page-1#comment-2554</link>
		<dc:creator>MDMConnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 03:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm...

from the AEC:

&quot;If your submission ‘reflects adversely’ on another person (for example, accusing them of lying or corrupt behaviour), it may be sent to that person so they can reply.&quot;

Maybe that&#039;s why the LNP haven&#039;t lodged a comment. The AEC may have referred Mr Richardson&#039;s submission to them so they can reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>from the AEC:</p>
<p>&#8220;If your submission ‘reflects adversely’ on another person (for example, accusing them of lying or corrupt behaviour), it may be sent to that person so they can reply.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe that&#8217;s why the LNP haven&#8217;t lodged a comment. The AEC may have referred Mr Richardson&#8217;s submission to them so they can reply.</p>
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		<title>By: MDMConnell</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/1161/comment-page-1#comment-2547</link>
		<dc:creator>MDMConnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 01:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading the comments, about 90% of them are opposition to the transfer of Cape York from Leichhardt and/or removing Mt Isa from Kennedy.

Apart from Bob Richardson, other comments to deal with large parts of the state are the ALP and Mark Mulcair. 

Martin Gordon and Kate Townsend use the opportunity to make Suggestions of their own. Obviously they didn&#039;t get their original suggestions in on time....and when you look at Ms Townsend&#039;s flashy presentation you can see why!

Unless the AEC haven&#039;t put up all of the Comments yet, there&#039;s nothing from the LNP, which is very odd. A number of individual LNP MPs do make Comments, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading the comments, about 90% of them are opposition to the transfer of Cape York from Leichhardt and/or removing Mt Isa from Kennedy.</p>
<p>Apart from Bob Richardson, other comments to deal with large parts of the state are the ALP and Mark Mulcair. </p>
<p>Martin Gordon and Kate Townsend use the opportunity to make Suggestions of their own. Obviously they didn&#8217;t get their original suggestions in on time&#8230;.and when you look at Ms Townsend&#8217;s flashy presentation you can see why!</p>
<p>Unless the AEC haven&#8217;t put up all of the Comments yet, there&#8217;s nothing from the LNP, which is very odd. A number of individual LNP MPs do make Comments, however.</p>
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		<title>By: MDMConnell</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/1161/comment-page-1#comment-2546</link>
		<dc:creator>MDMConnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 00:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read the Comments on Submissions, and I have to say:

Someone needs to tell &#039;Bob Richardson&#039; that redistribution submissions are not an appropriate forum for low blows and flying off the handle at your political opponents.

Obviously of the Left, his Comment is what I can only describe as a &#039;hissy fit&#039;, accusing the LNP of all sorts of nastiness and shenanigans because he was unable to access their maps. Admittedly, the maps weren&#039;t good, and the written descriptions were light-on, but hardly deserving of such a rant.

He actually did a similar thing at previous redistributions, accusing the Liberals of &#039;bullying&#039; the AEC because they raised Objections, which anyone is entitled to do. He&#039;s also put the boot into various shires, essentially claiming all their sugesstions are politically motivated (maybe they are, but he has no real proof of that). 

He doesn&#039;t agree with certain proposals, fair enough, but you can&#039;t carry on the way he does. It&#039;s very entertaining, but probably guarnatees that his own proposal (which was questionable to begin with) won&#039;t be taken that seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read the Comments on Submissions, and I have to say:</p>
<p>Someone needs to tell &#8216;Bob Richardson&#8217; that redistribution submissions are not an appropriate forum for low blows and flying off the handle at your political opponents.</p>
<p>Obviously of the Left, his Comment is what I can only describe as a &#8216;hissy fit&#8217;, accusing the LNP of all sorts of nastiness and shenanigans because he was unable to access their maps. Admittedly, the maps weren&#8217;t good, and the written descriptions were light-on, but hardly deserving of such a rant.</p>
<p>He actually did a similar thing at previous redistributions, accusing the Liberals of &#8216;bullying&#8217; the AEC because they raised Objections, which anyone is entitled to do. He&#8217;s also put the boot into various shires, essentially claiming all their sugesstions are politically motivated (maybe they are, but he has no real proof of that). </p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t agree with certain proposals, fair enough, but you can&#8217;t carry on the way he does. It&#8217;s very entertaining, but probably guarnatees that his own proposal (which was questionable to begin with) won&#8217;t be taken that seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: hobknob</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/1161/comment-page-1#comment-2475</link>
		<dc:creator>hobknob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 19:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, Noonuccal or Hill.  I should really read up on some of these people before I throw names about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, Noonuccal or Hill.  I should really read up on some of these people before I throw names about.</p>
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		<title>By: hobknob</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/1161/comment-page-1#comment-2414</link>
		<dc:creator>hobknob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lols for real suggestion symmetry, Bennett, or Cilento...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lols for real suggestion symmetry, Bennett, or Cilento&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: hobknob</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/1161/comment-page-1#comment-2412</link>
		<dc:creator>hobknob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 15:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah but its too nerdy and partisan.  There is no doubt that the AEC prefers dead pm&#039;s and community politicians these days.

Like Blair, Bonner, Lingiari and Flynn.  And Wright - the problem was people confused her with a politician.

Irwin, or Kenny?

Who put in the winning suggestion of Flynn last time round?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah but its too nerdy and partisan.  There is no doubt that the AEC prefers dead pm&#8217;s and community politicians these days.</p>
<p>Like Blair, Bonner, Lingiari and Flynn.  And Wright &#8211; the problem was people confused her with a politician.</p>
<p>Irwin, or Kenny?</p>
<p>Who put in the winning suggestion of Flynn last time round?</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/1161/comment-page-1#comment-2345</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 04:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s little doubt Theodore was the best PM Australia never had, even if he had an extraordinary ego, a total lack of false humility and his conduct over the Qld state mine scandal was highly questionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s little doubt Theodore was the best PM Australia never had, even if he had an extraordinary ego, a total lack of false humility and his conduct over the Qld state mine scandal was highly questionable.</p>
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		<title>By: hobknob</title>
		<link>http://www.tallyroom.com.au/1161/comment-page-1#comment-2145</link>
		<dc:creator>hobknob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 23:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um forgot there already was a Paterson... &#039;Banjo&#039; who?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um forgot there already was a Paterson&#8230; &#8216;Banjo&#8217; who?</p>
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